Chevron's Big Move, Middle East Crisis, Kamala Harris | 08.05.24 BDE

0:00 All right, what's going on? BDE Nation, I'm back. I haven't been on the show for a while. I know, like a month. I will actually say we missed you. I miss you. I miss you, fucking. And you

0:12 come back on the day where it's like, it's the end of the world. The only reason I'm on today is because no one else is here. Nobody else wants to talk about this. What are we going to talk about

0:21 today? I asked Chuck what we were talking about today. And he's like, yeah, we're all over the world Stock market crashing, so it's a great, great start to the week. Can we take like all the

0:34 money we have at Digital Wildcatters and go license it's the end of the world by REM?

0:41 The end of the theme song at NC and the other world, as we know. I feel like that's a good use of proceeds. But yeah. Did you know Microsoft offered four years, 12 million for that song to be the

0:56 theme song for Windows. Their launch on Windows and REM said no. Rolling Stones forStart Me Up. Heck yeah, give me the money. Yeah. I did not know that. Tell us - Story number one. Hold on,

1:09 you're telling an interesting JFK story. OK, so Kennedy. Everybody knows I'm fascinated with Kennedy assassination. My senior thesis on rice, there are two iconic photos that everyone involved in

1:22 the assassination that studied it has seen. There's the picture of Oswald on a bus in the aftermath of the shooting behind the book Depository, he's sitting next to a lady. It's a city bus. When

1:36 they arrested him, they found the ticket for the bus in his pocket. The lady testified at the Warren Commission that Oswald sat next to me. So this picture - and by the way, we got a photo of it

1:47 right there. So Slam Dunky was on that bus because he took a weird path to get home. So there's that photo He gets arrested, I believe it's like an hour and a half later. at the Tower Theater and

2:04 'cause he was sitting in there, he had hidden in there after he supposedly killed Officer Tippet and he's in handcuffs, two cops are yanking him out. There's a little bit of a crowd in front,

2:15 iconic photo of him being arrested. Yeah, same dude took both photos. Stuart L. Reed. And what's strange about that is, so he's a Dallas photographer, not much is known about this guy You go

2:28 Google him and you get credits for the photos. I read somewhere I want so that he was in the Army Corps of Engineers. He never testified at the Warren Commission or the House Select Committee.

2:40 There's a story about him moving to Panama shortly after this. Anyway,

2:46 I can totally see you're a Dallas photographer and you're taking pictures of Kennedy coming through in the aftermath. You're just taking pictures of everything you take a picture of a bus and lo and

2:58 behold. It turns out Oswald's on it. Okay, I get that. An hour and a half later, you just happen to be standing in front of the Texas theater, which is like two miles away, caught 15 minutes

3:12 with traffic and car. And there was a lot of traffic that day. Yeah. I mean, maybe he's sitting there listening to the police scanner. Yeah. And he hears about a disturbance, but I mean, it's

3:25 not - I have to I'm more sus of the bus picture. Like you're just taking random pictures of buses. Like that's more weird. Hey, we're framing this dude for the assassination. We need you to get a

3:39 picture of him on the bus. Like I can buy a story of, he's at the theater 'cause he's listening to a police scanner, which I don't know, like, if that technology was readily available to talk

3:51 about. I don't know if that was a thing. To talk about you. Yeah, I don't know but

3:54 just taking random pictures. people on buses, that's pretty sus. Yeah, so I hired a private investigator 'cause I wanted to find - Of course you did, yeah. No, I checked this very seriously.

4:08 Well, and if you talk to anybody that knows stuff about the Kennedy assassination, you go, Hey man, the same guy took these two photos. Everybody's like, Oh my God I, hadn't really thought of

4:17 that. So I wonder if an investigation of him could lead to something, breaking something in the case. Yeah, do another cell life Don't know if he's still alive. I think I want to say somewhere I

4:31 read. 'Cause I've, I mean, I've gone through Google,

4:36 I've gone through chat, GPT, I've gone through Grock. You know, and they all come back with just blurbs and I'm like, Tell me more, give me sources. Yeah. And there's just not a lot. And,

4:44 you know, Stuart, so U-A-R-T, Stuart, L-R-E-E-D, it's just such a common name. Yeah. That the private investigators, like I, you know, pulled a million of them. I don't even know where to

4:58 start. Yeah. So, yeah. Anyway, this is, I'm gonna have to get on this. We're gonna have to do a whole check. Gates needs a job episode on the hunt for a steward L read. Exactly. All right,

5:10 let's get into some energy news 'cause from what you told me, I've been off Twitter for the last 12 hours, but it sounds like in that 12 hours, a lot's happened, so. Well, let's start off with

5:20 the win for the home team. So Chevron has announced last week they were moving their headquarters from, where are they, San Mateo, California? Oh, yeah, I don't know. San Ramon, California,

5:33 wherever they are in California, they're coming. It's like Santa Barbara or something like that. Yeah, they're coming to Houston. So all corporate functions will be moved to Houston over the next

5:44 five years. And this is kind of a crazy stat I read somewhere. I can't necessarily verify the stat, but it sounds right With this move,

5:58 25 of the CapEx spend in the Permian Basin by public companies was controlled by Houston based companies today with Chevron's move, Exxon's moves here, 70 of the CapEx spend in the Permian Basin is

6:14 controlled by Houston based companies. Yeah. I mean, I believe that. I'm surprised that it's not even more than that. I looked it up I was in Ramon, California, when he took me three chutes, I

6:25 wanted to be factually accurate on

6:28 it. If anyone should know it, we need like, 'cause Rogan, you know, on his podcast now has like 12 facts.

6:37 I like Joe Rogan, but hardly ever listen to his podcast. Everyone wants them all. There's an interesting episode that I'll listen to, and I listened to this one the other day. I think it just

6:46 like picked a random one, 'cause I just needed something random to listen to in the entire episode was Joe Rogan saying shit, And then they'd like go research. You're like, oh, yeah, that's not

6:56 true. What is it? They're not Fatherson. Oh, why does it lie? It says Father Knocks outside of the celebrity boxing match. Yeah, I get somebody to click on this. Oh. This was like a YouTuber

7:05 thing. This guy's a YouTuber and he's a YouTuber. I'm such a sucker. Like he's like the entire thing. And that's like, we need a fact checker on here for sure. So Saturday night he did a live

7:16 comedy special on, it was from San Antonio, it was on Netflix. Highly recommend San Antonio Yeah. Oh, okay. I haven't watched it. Highly recommend watching it 'cause it's funny. And he's like,

7:28 people are sitting there yelling at me about vaccines and all this other stuff during COVID. And I go, if you're getting your information from me, you're a fucking idiot, I say wild shit. And he

7:42 goes to and he explained, like everything that would criticize him for saying, let me give you the context to that. Drunk in a bar, I was stoned and I said this. That's hilarious. I have to

7:56 watch that. Yeah, but the Chevron thing, I'm surprised that it's taken them so long. And

8:06 in our BDE question the asked someone, chat to Kurt 'cause you know, or the Dutch next is shell. Gonna come over to - 'Cause shell's technically London right now, right? They did move the

8:16 headquarters to London, right? Are they gonna take - I don't know, do they? I think they did. I think they did. Well, let me look up right now 'cause we're gonna be - They're actually accurate

8:27 today. Come to use some boys. Yeah, I mean, you know it's inevitable. Yeah. You know you want it. Come on. You know you

8:36 want to, so. All right, we got lots of stuff going on in the middle. So let me lay all this out to you over the last couple of weeks. as close as we've been to an all-out war in the Middle East.

8:51 At least, I mean, I guess we've had two runs in Iraq, but in terms of Israel versus the rest of the Middle East. So over the last couple of weeks, Israel's taken out multiple Palestinian and

9:08 Lebanese leaders that took out a Hamas terrorist whose name I can't pronounce, Ismail Hanaye, took him out in Tehran with a drone strike, I believe. We had US. forces clash with pro-Iranian

9:25 fighters in Iraq. Four people died on that. North Korea diplomats have visited Iran. Russian military flights

9:35 to Iran are supposedly at an all-time high right now Iran has vowed revenge. So I mean literally as we're sitting here, maybe something starts happening. This is crazy on July 29th. So just a few

9:50 days ago, oil is at7540 right now as we're recording7263. Oil's down10 over the

10:01 past month. And that would indicate that it's not priced in, right? If you have all of this potential war activity and oil's dropping, it doesn't make a lot of sense I mean, my whole career,

10:14 anytime somebody rattle, the saber in the Middle East, well, jump5. Yeah, for sure, yeah, that's odd. It's trading like every other security right now, which is just crashing. Yeah, I saw

10:26 the Bitcoin bros were talking about Bitcoin falling out and looked at the price. I don't look at the price of anything. Oil, Bitcoin, I live - Bitcoin's actually, if you look at Bitcoin in the

10:37 last five days, it's down 17 and a half percent There you go, yeah. By the dip.

10:44 ignorance.

10:47 Nothing's going on over my world right now as a man living on a limited portfolio. I check

10:57 it

10:60 here for fucking 15 minutes. No, but the, you know, I don't, I don't keep up with a lot of Middle East politics or activity, but I saw that they discovered a large tunnel network. I think it

11:11 was between Palestine and maybe Egypt. And like, they showed like humbies driving through it. I mean, these aren't like little tunnels that are just like, because every, you know, no one ever

11:24 talks about, but, but the borders to Gaza, there's a border with Egypt. There's a wall. I mean, there's an equally repressive wall. Yeah With Egypt. And so they found tunnels under that. Yeah,

11:38 they found tunnels under that. And I mean, these are like, you know, they got to be, call it 12, 15 feet wide, probably 10 feet tall and cinder block. You know, I mean, they're the real

11:52 construction, civil construction projects. And so, yeah, I guess that brings up a lot of questions of like, you know. What do you do with the tunnels that big? Who's running stuff through those

12:05 tunnels? So,

12:08 always find tunnel activity to be interesting 'Cause it's like, who knows what goes on underground. Right. Well, so, I mean, at the end of the day, I mean, if you play through the scenarios

12:24 here, the US. being dragged into a war in the Middle East. I think I saw something. Marines being deployed. Yeah, with Marines, I believe we sent two ships over to be, whether it's in the

12:41 Mediterranean sending them into the

12:46 Gulf. Yeah, US. war fighter jets and ships to Middle East ahead of possible Iranian retaliation. So deploying. Yeah. Both Navy and planes over there. I mean,

13:10 you know, and we try not to do politics here except when it focuses on the energy business and, you know, the Biden administration let Iran sell oil. They have money and it seems like bad stuff

13:19 happens when Iran has money, you know? Interesting that you think I was in this, I was in this round table one time with Ted Cruz and a few others and I haven't gone and verified this information

13:33 so just take it with a grain of salt. This is Ted Cruz telling me this but

13:41 essentially.

13:44 Donald Trump, when he's in office, puts all these sanctions on Russia in Nord Stream pipeline to inevitably stop the construction of the pipeline. And that's what really prevented Russia from

14:01 invading Ukraine and held some level of peace because any war with Ukraine would disrupt Russian oil and gas flows through the country When Biden comes into the office, repeals all of those sanctions,

14:16 boom, pipeline gets built, all of a sudden Russia has a way to pipe over

14:22 resources to Europe and bypass Ukraine, giving them an open path to

14:28 attack Ukraine. So Ted Cruz thinks that Russian-Ukraine conflict was really driven by energy policy And once Russia had leverage and a way to

14:42 type out their natural resources that gave them a lane to attack Ukraine. And you look at what's happening now. I mean, who the fuck's running in the United States right now? I

14:54 hate talking politics, dude. I hate talking politics, but what's happening right now is it's insane. There's no leadership.

15:03 And I don't think that that I don't think that that's coincidence that you have so much. The Middle East is always, always head violent. The old toast was nothing new, but just with all the stuff

15:18 popping off right now, I mean, why would you fear the United States or

15:25 fear any repercussions when it's like, who the hell is even running the United States? We haven't even seen the guy in the US. Yeah. Well, and I don't want to get in trouble with the girlfriend.

15:36 We actually had a really. fun weekend in El Dorado, Arkansas, going to a wedding and reading about the oil business. So at the risk of doing that, I truly believe is I truly believe that Putin

15:49 sat down with Biden and saw what we've all seen. Half the country has been seeing it for four years. The other half noticed it at the debate and decided to chime in and Putin saw that and three

16:03 months later, he invaded. Well, no shit I mean, he sat there and watched this guy that couldn't complete a sentence and said, They're not going to do anything to me, you know? And so it has

16:17 repercussions. I mean, I get it.

16:22 You want your guy to be in power and all that. You can make a case like it doesn't matter who's in the office, things shouldn't happen But the one thing, and I'm not a, I'm not a, you know, MAGA

16:34 trumper, but facts are facts when Trump was in office. there are no horse if I'm not fitting, right? Because I think Trump, I think the beauty of Trump is that Trump is such a wild card that you

16:45 just don't, like, no one knows what his next move is, right? And he's not seems like a very rational person at times either. And so there's an element of that where it's like, Putin doesn't know

16:58 what his next move is, because he doesn't know Trump will respond to things. So, co-trude in seventh grade, every time we said something, you'd always say, Go look at the scoreboard. And the

17:07 scoreboard is under George Bush, who I actually was a fan of. I've just, you know, and

17:15 Putin took Georgia, right? And under

17:20 Obama, Putin took Crimea, under Biden. He's trying to take Ukraine, under Trump, Putin took zero land Yeah. Zero. And I mean, you can say, you know, well, the, the things I love is,

17:36 that's cause. Trump was giving Putin secrets. And I'm always like, well, that's a lot cheaper than a war. I mean, what secrets did he give away? I'm kind of okay with this, you know? I mean,

17:47 so

17:50 I just think that it'd be nice to get some leadership in one form of another. So I'm getting some stability, so. And one other thing, I hate to talk politics, but we're doing it and all So, okay,

18:03 so Harris is now the Democratic nominee for president. Let's take the Democratic position of Joe Biden was so noble and realized he had gone into decline. So he resigned for the good of the country.

18:18 I'll take you at your word there. She has yet to face a question for a press conference or a sit down interview with anyone. So we're two weeks into her campaigning and she has not taken questions

18:34 from the media, part of and we do not have the world's greatest process on democracy. I'm not sitting there defending it. But when you have a primary system, you have to go to all your voters and

18:48 say, here's what I'm for, guys. Am I, am I your leader? Are you my team here? You

18:54 have debates, right? You sit in front of the media and you generally speaking, there's a tradition in America, you go to the enemy press So, you know, you go to reporters that don't favor you,

19:07 you sit down and do that. And one of the things that really worries me is we're going to throw Harrison here. She's not going to, she's going to do the same thing Biden did. Just what he did was

19:19 he sat in the basement and Delaware didn't face the media. So we're not going to have any scrutiny on any of these issues in the Middle East. We're not going to know where she stands on those things

19:31 And boom, that just adds to the uncertainty and she's going to be tested. by foreign leaders. I mean, that's just going to happen. And so, you know, if we're truly for democracy, we shouldn't

19:44 have done all this, but if we're truly for democracy, I wish some serious thoughtful Democrats were sitting there saying, okay, you got to go sit down with the press. You got to go sit down with

19:55 Sean Hannity. He may be an asshole, but he's the opposite side. He need to get grilled by him, just because we've got to vet a president before we choose Yeah, I mean, this is serious shit. I

20:07 don't know, the whole Harris issue, I find deeply disturbing and remove Harris as a person or a politician. Sure. I don't care about her as a person or a politician. Supposedly a great stepmother.

20:21 I mean, it's really co-parented the kids well and stuff. Sure. Kudos to her, yeah. But what I find really disturbing about it is the entire process for it and how they treated her prior to this.

20:41 talked about Biden before this. Oh, Biden's fine. You know, he's good. Yeah, he runs circles around me. Yeah. And then all of a sudden she swapped in with no vote on it. All of a sudden, hey,

20:48 that's our person. That's a fair democracy. Yeah. And it just, it's very disturbing when you of none because it about think and down sit really

20:58 it makes sense. And it's like, it's - But you know what the most disturbing thing is? 'Cause I agree with you on all that The most disturbing thing is there's not a single Democrat standing up

21:10 and saying, hey, this is wrong. Yeah. We shouldn't have done this. I mean, 'cause say what you want about Republicans, there are never Trumpers. There are people that have stood up and said,

21:19 I will never vote for Trump. And they call him out on it and Mitt Romney, the Bushes. I mean, there is true dissent. We had 10 people run in the Republican primary. We had debates I mean, I

21:34 know Trump didn't show up. 'cause he was winning, but there was at least dissent, and dissent leads us to better positions, better policy, better governance, and that's what scares me the most

21:48 is Democrats have done this, and there is not a single Democrat that has stood up and said, Oh my gosh, this is bad. Yeah, I think, you know, one thing that I think's been disappointing over

21:60 the last decade is, America has some of the smartest people in the world, some of the most high-performing people in the world. There's a lot of good people that could be leaders and president of

22:12 the United States, and then it's like, we have Trump, we have Biden, we have Harris, you know, there's a camera for what the stat is, but look at how many bushes and clinton's in, it's like,

22:26 there's not a hot, there's not a - First presidential ballot since 1976 that hasn't included

22:34 a Clinton Bye. or Bush. It's not a high variance in names that get the opportunity to run for president. So it just makes you like really think the same. Do we really have a democracy or? And to

22:48 pull this back to energy policy, because ultimately that's what we're supposed to be talking about. Senator Harris, candidate for president in 2019, Harris, was all for a fracking ban. Yeah.

23:06 And you know, her lots of videos of her son that she'll ban fracking. That she'll ban fracking her presidential campaign and has come out and said she won't do that as president. But again, that

23:15 hasn't been vetted by the media. It hasn't been vetted by the voters in a primary love, just like one simple question for politicians when they said they're going to ban fracking. Okay, what is

23:26 fracking? Yeah, exactly. One simple question Just tell me what it is. All for banding it, tell me what it is. Just tell me what it is, exactly. And do you spell it with a K or not?

23:39 So stocks, market, crashing, what's the market doing? We talked about oil moving down, which was weird. This is all beginning of recession type stuff. There was some. But we've been in our

23:54 recession though. That's what, like everyone's afraid of our recession, but we've been in our recession I mean, tech drew down 90 like tens, hundreds of thousands of layoffs. Like that's a

24:03 recession. And so,

24:07 you know, maybe there's conversation for depression, but you know, everyone's always afraid of a recession. And there's a lot of indicators like, you know, things like this, but we've been in a

24:17 recession. Also, don't give me all my soapbox about how humans are inherently pessimistic and we always fear, you know,

24:28 down trends and recessions and things like this, but we do always draw a straight line from the last two points. Yeah.

24:35 Up and down. But yeah, oil's down,

24:40 Bitcoin's down, stock markets down. The knee guy was the Japanese stock exchange, I think was down 18 yesterday. So yeah, it's not just the US. Yeah, it's everybody. Yeah, I saw some people

24:53 on Twitter talking about this this morning and I didn't get to dive in on it. But that's the Japanese market. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So, you know, to Chuck's point and Chuck's looking at this shit

25:07 every 15 minutes.

25:10 Oh gosh. Damn, my network's going down. Go ask, go ask my former business partner, my accountants. You don't want me reading daily reports.

25:20 What's poo? We pooed. Oh my God. It's the end of the world. Yeah. But No, I mean, I had shock text me a couple of days ago, I said, how do you spell, uh, D Mobe? Yeah, that's true. I had

25:34 no idea. I estimated Mobe and Dean Mobe. I had no, but I didn't know why you're asking me. And then I saw you, uh, I saw you tweet out about it. Yeah. So it's like, Chuck, you're trying to

25:44 move into oil and gas operations or what? We've got, we've got a video that I think he's going to let us show, uh, that Sheffield's going to let us show talking about his9 million move to, uh,

25:56 of an HP rig from Texas to Australia. Yeah. I posted that video of Brian Sheffield. It was doing really well. Yeah. I'm talking about, it's a great story. Ted Collins was awesome. Yeah. He's

26:07 talking about doing his first deal and trying to get a hundred percent of the lease and Ted Collins swooping in and taking 25 of it. Just snagged it. Yeah. Yeah. I post that That was cool. Brian

26:20 did give you guys kind of that. I mean, it was ungated access because like people like. that story, Ty Collins, like, you know, that's to Brian. He's like, oh, you know, it's just a story

26:34 that happened. But other people think that that's really cool to hear that and hear how deals are made and how businesses made, how people like Brian are made. And so it's cool to get to hear that,

26:45 you know, just kind of genuine authentic take from him. Yeah, no, no, we've got, I think we're up to 20 some odd hours of stuff with Brian. And so we're we're working through how we're going to

26:58 put this out. I mean, you know, I'd loved it. I'd love to just cut it down to an hour. But every time I watch something, I'm always like, Oh, that's good. Really good. Yeah. I mean, we had

27:08 we had 30 because we were driving all over the place in the car. And we were we'd be miked up. So we were miked up talking about how you space wells. Yeah. And I'm not even sure that's a Chuck

27:20 Yates needs a job. The podcast maybe, But it's like 30 minutes of me just saying that needs to be out. in the ether somewhere. That's how I think I'll probably end up just cutting a lot of it up

27:31 in the chef-y chronicles. Yeah, just to ship it out. Just put the raw footage out there. So I like that. But yeah, I'm sure that we'll probably have some updates later in the week. It sounds

27:44 like stuff pub could change while we're recording this. Yeah, he's very good in the show. So yeah, so I'm working back up. So Harris is fracking a well in Pennsylvania. He wants to win over the

27:57 Republicans, go freckle well. Well, pencil, I mean, I don't think you win the presidency without Pennsylvania. It's definitely, yeah. And they got a lot of gas there. Yeah. A lot of oil and

28:11 gas jobs. A lot of working people there. Yeah. And a lot of those people are gonna be voting for Trump after the assassination attempt. So that'll be a tough one to win But yeah, you know, I was,

28:24 I was

28:26 laughing because it was down in South Texas a couple of weeks ago and down at my mom and stepdad's ranch and, you know, when they talk about, you know, the silent majority, it's like, I think of

28:38 people down in South Texas and West Texas that they're not on Twitter, maybe on Facebook, but they're not on Twitter. And I think about like the butterfly fix, like, what if Trump was killed on

28:51 TV? That's civil war. I mean, 100. Like those people down in South Texas, like, yeah, that's civil war to them. And I'm like, that's insane that we were eighth of an inch away from just the

29:04 world looking different now, which just kind of shows you like how volatile and fragile society is. But,

29:13 you know, I think that

29:17 you look at working people in Ohio and Pennsylvania, Texas, other parts of the South. I mean, people. want to be represented, feel like they have representation, right? And so the girlfriend

29:31 and I talk about this fair amount, because, you know, by a lot of the metrics, the US economy is doing as well as it ever has. You also look at it vis-a-vis the rest of the world coming out of

29:42 COVID. Is that true, though? We look at stock market all time behind unemployment rates. Yeah, but the stock market doesn't. So stock market doesn't represent the economy Unemployment rates,

29:55 you look at TSA, TSA is the jobs program. It doesn't actually do anything, right? So how many of those jobs are government jobs? Meanwhile, people can't afford to pay the groceries. Go try

30:05 financing a car right now. That's crazy. That's my point. My point back is, because the liberal side of

30:15 the world is always, well, these people are racist and all that, it's go look at real wage growth. Yeah. That is the statistic. It's basically been flat if you look at it since we passed NAFTA.

30:31 And I was four NAFTA at the time. I was a big, huge free trader. Can't get toilet paper during a pandemic. I'm willing to rethink the whole thing on some protectionism, but it's real wage growth

30:44 and real wage growth is down under Biden. And so these people aren't running around being racist and the like, they truly are not able to pass it onto their kids better than they had it. And that's

30:57 the fundamental desire all of us have. You can't give your son your job with the union at the local factory. Yeah. Doesn't happen anymore in these. BRV made this point one time on a podcast three

31:11 years ago and it holds true and I've said it a million times, but I'll say it again, is if you look at Cunon Proud Boys on one side BLM on

31:22 the other side and you just read the rhetoric. you take the names off it, it's the same exact rhetoric. It's this just attachment from the American dream and not being able to enjoy the benefits of

31:35 America prosperity, et cetera. Yeah. And so, it's a real thing and Trump's tapped into that on the right and that's why people, that's why MAGA folks love him so much and are willing to overlook

31:51 his faults All right, well, I'm sure that we'll have a lot of activity over the next week. We'll get lots of comments. So please bring Mark back. Even bring Kirk back. Gonna bring back sidetrack,

32:05 sidetrack, Mark. Yeah, man, where's Kirk at? Kirk's over there. Kirk, I don't think we're allowed to say we're Kirk. We can't say. We can't say. It's a mystery. We're not going to say it's

32:14 a mystery. We're just closed with a cushion. Mark, Mark's in, I believe the East Coast. Mark, it's Carolina I love Martin, so. All right, well, we will be back next week. It makes news

32:26 breaks this week. We'll do it kind of like we will, but Chuck and I will be up in New York City. So we'll maybe a special beat here from New York City. Beaty from Soho, there we go.

32:39 We will catch you guys on next episode.

Chevron's Big Move, Middle East Crisis, Kamala Harris | 08.05.24 BDE